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Friday, 2 March 2012

Hadith not important - MUST READ THE RESPONSE



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From: Muhammad Jhangir <jhangirmd@ymail.com>
Date: Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 11:47 PM
Subject: █▓▒░░▒▓█ Hadith not important - MUST READ THE RESPONSE
To: Akhtar Khan <akhtark@gmail.com>, syed abdul khaleq <khaleq_hyd@yahoo.co.uk>, JAX_Muslims@yahoogroups.com
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Brother Mubashir
Follo
wers of Hadiths are  predictors. They don't know that there is no specific Hadith with specific volume number to guide the correct chronicle order of Sallah.

--- On Thu, 2/2/12, Mubashir Inayet <minayet@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Mubashir Inayet <minayet@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [JAX_Muslims] Hadith not important - MUST READ THE RESPONSE
To: "Akhtar Khan" <akhtark@gmail.com>, "syed abdul khaleq" <khaleq_hyd@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: "JAX_Muslims@yahoogroups.com" <JAX_Muslims@yahoogroups.com>, "
Date: Thursday, February 2, 2012, 8:03 PM

 

Dear Sir
 
Please provide a complete way of salat from A to Z by quoting ahadith and rest your case.
 
The Imam of Ka'aba, you say, regularly refers to the ahadith to check if his salat is good and proper?
 
You assert that the Sunnah is also safe from corruption. Is that based on facts?
 
What about killing of apostates, killing of blasphemers, stoning for adultery, child marriages, instant three talaaqs, choosing a successor (Caliph or Imam), difference in Salat of Shias and Sunnis? Differences in fiqh practices by various sects, differences over Sunnah between Ahle Hadith and Ahle Sunnah?
 
Do these practices all match the Qur'an?
 
Just a suggestion.
 
 
 
 
 
      
From: Akhtar Khan <akhtark@gmail.com>
To: syed abdul khaleq <khaleq_hyd@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: "JAX_Muslims@yahoogroups.com" <JAX_Muslims@yahoogroups.com>; Nasir Sayani <nasir_sayani@yahoo.com>; Shahed Ahmed <shaddo1@gmail.com>; "Hyderabadis-in-Saudi@yahoogroups.com" <Hyderabadis-in-Saudi@yahoogroups.com>; Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 2:28:18 AM
Subject: Re: [JAX_Muslims] Hadith not important - MUST READ THE RESPONSE

Walaikum Assalam!

These people are on a very weak footing. They are exposed when you ask them how many times they pray, how they pray, how much zakat they give, etc., as these are only in the hadith collections. Their responses are so childish that one can see their inability to respond. They say they pray like the prayers offered at muqame Ibrahim as that is what the Qur'an says. But when you say that the Imam who leads the prayer follows the ahadith, they have no response.

True that they will face a problem in yaum al-akhira, but we must challenge them for the sake of those who do not have sufficient knowledge, to enable them to distinguish between right and wrong.

Allah Hafiz
Akhtar

On 2 February 2012 08:39, syed abdul khaleq <khaleq_hyd@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Assalam Alaikum,

Dear Brother Shahed, you are rightly said the mischief of disapproval of the Hadith has overtaken the modern intellectuals who are bewitched by western thought and culture. They are employing all their faculties of speech and writing to discredit the Hadith, to make them look suspect, and thus to shake the confidence of the common people in the noble Sunnah of the Prophet (saws). Their basic motive is to bring eastern culture on a par with that of the West which enjoys total freedom of word and deed. Immodesty of women, free mixing of men and women in society, the right of equality of sex in every sphere of human activity, music, dance etc., which spread immorality are the base of western culture. So is bribery, usury, gambling, drinking (wine) and adultery. To gain legitimacy to such nefarious conduct seems to be the aim of modern day scholars.  

May Allah guide us all to the Siraat al-Mustaqeem. 

Your Brother In Islam,



From: Shahed Ahmed <shaddo1@gmail.com>


ASAK brothers:

I seldom pay attention to the religious articles that appears frequently on different issues & topics in this group.  To me, those articles were somewhat informative and ok since neither it weakens someone's Iman (faith) nor creates divisions among the Ummah.
 
Lately, I have started seeing some articles written by so-called Muslims, though I doubt very much them to be in view of their disgraceful and condemnable writings.  There are possibilities that enemies of Islam found this group as a soft target to create confusion among Muslim who has very little knowledge of their Deen and hence it is easy for them to influence such targets to achieve their nasty goals - to create confusion and division in DEEN. Hence, they disguised and pretend to be Muslim Alims by claiming that no one has the knowledge to understand Quran better than them in this group.  They are right in their own judgment since they are trained to malign Islam and make divisions TAFRAQA; and they ought to do it till they attain their goal. It is our responsibility to be aware of such FITNA.
 
I am sure that there are many readers who might have basic fundamental knowledge but lack in-depth understanding of their religion.  Therefore, whatever material available to them through this medium, they start believing it to be true.  You are aware that it is the sole responsibility of each and every Muslim to read authentic books, available in the languages best understood by them, rather reading articles that have no references or written out of context by non-Muslims disguised as Muslim or by those who are declared kafirs due to their beliefs. 
 
Those people, who claims there is no difference between Ramayana and the compilation work of Ahadees of Prophet Mohammed by Bukhari and further believes that Ahadees are not important for Muslims, shall definitely have to face the consequences not in this world but hereafter as well.  Also, Allah shall not spare those who simply influenced by such writings and started believing and practicing it by reading articles posted by such non-believers (Gumrah).  I don't know is it appropriate to call them Munafiqeen? May Allah show them the righteous path, irrespective whether they are Muslims or Non-Muslims, ameen.  It is the responsibility of each & every one to ask for a proof of such claim.  Allah has very clearly and categorically mentioned several times in the Quran to follow its teachings and the teachings & sayings of the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH). The religion of Islam is incomplete without Ahadees; you would never be able to practice the religion perfectly without seeking guidance from Ahadees.  We are asked to perform fundamentals in Quran but the methodology was explained by the Prophet (PBUH).  That is why Allah (swt) has commanded us to follow the teachings of his beloved prophet to better understand Quran and consequently to practice the religion appropriately.
 
While concluding my email, I would say that Allah has given us the wisdom to judge what is right and what is wrong based on HIS (swt) revelation (Quran) and the Sunna (sayings & teachings) of Prophet Mohammed (PBUH).  Whatever contradicts with these teachings is simply being required to be thrown in the fire because that will lead us to hell-fire. To accomplish such knowledge, we require passion and time to read authentic books and to spend reasonable time in the companionship of practicing Muslims.  I feel it appropriate to make people aware of the fitna that may in some point of time become a burden upon us and a source that would lead ultimately to nar-e-Jahannum. May Allah protect us from ALIM-E-SUE and show us the righteous path and protect us from hell-fire, AMEEN.

Take Care & be careful of unseen FITNAS.  
Shahed Ahmed





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